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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: three guillotine blades.... Mar 7 Fév 2006 - 19:26 | |
| http://edp.org/Germany/London/Guillotine.jpg
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/collections/nelson/viewObject.cfm/category/90343?ID=TOA0079
http://travelchannel.igougo.com/planning/journalEntryActivity.asp?JournalID=38078&EntryID=41110 | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: something from sunny Italy.... Sam 11 Fév 2006 - 10:32 | |
| http://www.museocriminologico.it/ghigliottina_uk.htm http://mp_pollett.tripod.com/roma-c12.htm http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfree.asp?DOCID=1G1:78728719&ctrlInfo=Round18%3AMode18c%3ADocG%3AResult&ao= | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: german fallbeil (from wikpedia) Sam 11 Fév 2006 - 10:42 | |
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Badische_Guillotine.JPG | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: miscellanea Sam 11 Fév 2006 - 20:50 | |
| fernand meyssonier-french executioner http://www.remnantofgod.org/guillotine-meyssonnier.jpg
??? date and details unknown(for me) http://www.cadaver.org/ac/acvf.7925529/decap/d2/french-execution.html | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: and the fourth one Sam 11 Fév 2006 - 21:25 | |
| http://www.truefork.org/Photography/Gent_judicial_instruments.php | |
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Boisdejustice Monsieur de Paris
Nombre de messages : 1459 Age : 66 Localisation : USA Emploi : Ingenieur Date d'inscription : 29/01/2006
| Sujet: French Execution Dim 12 Fév 2006 - 17:00 | |
| The last link above is to a photograph of a staged execution in 1905. The people are actors and the guillotine is a theater prop. I believe the photo was made into postcards proving that people back then had the same morbid interest in guillotine executions as we have today.
In 1905 Anatole Deibler was the only executioner for all of France and the guy in the top hat is definitely not him. The guillotine is not the 1872 Berger model which should have been used in 1905. | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: French Execution Dim 12 Fév 2006 - 17:25 | |
| - Boisdejustice a écrit:
- The last link above is to a photograph of a staged execution in 1905. The people are actors and the guillotine is a theater prop. I believe the photo was made into postcards proving that people back then had the same morbid interest in guillotine executions as we have today.
In 1905 Anatole Deibler was the only executioner for all of France and the guy in the top hat is definitely not him. The guillotine is not the 1872 Berger model which should have been used in 1905. http://library.thinkquest.org/23685/media/ghiglio.jpg another, but the same. executioner probably is a fat man(?) partially hidden (outside the picture) | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: another three photo a german "widow" Dim 12 Fév 2006 - 17:29 | |
| http://www.jedinak.cz/foto/smrt/gilotina01.jpg
http://www.rasger.de/hommer/pics/Fallbeil.jpg | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: swedish "giljotin" Dim 12 Fév 2006 - 20:29 | |
| I don't know swedish but the"giljotin" is probably exposed in Stockholm museum
http://user.tninet.se/~jll006w/fallbila.htm
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: nazi execution room in Prague Lun 13 Fév 2006 - 19:51 | |
| https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img103/763/prag2lf.jpg
The execution room in St. Pancras Prison in Prague During the german occupation victims of the NS-Justice where beheaded with the guillotine or hanged on one of the iron-hooks | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: SWISS MADE.... Mar 14 Fév 2006 - 16:58 | |
| Altdorf -29.10.1924
http://www.altdorf.ch/de/alle/portrait/geschichte/?action=showinfo&info_id=1509 | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: swiss/german movie Mar 14 Fév 2006 - 20:22 | |
| a movie about swiss murder
http://www.lumenfilm.ch/film.html?e# | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: miscellanea Mar 14 Fév 2006 - 21:02 | |
| oh sorry to all . Becuase of my language troubles I put thiss message in wrong place This is message for"films contentant veueve" | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: miscellanea Mar 14 Fév 2006 - 21:13 | |
| original "swiss made" ;-) guillotine-now exposed in historic museum ) city Luzern)
[img=https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img131/1408/swissmade5st.th.jpg] | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: :-) Mar 14 Fév 2006 - 21:30 | |
| Something funny.... http://www.ac-bordeaux.fr/Etablissement/CMBartetteArcachon/images/guillotine02grand.jpg | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: :-)) Mer 15 Fév 2006 - 16:43 | |
| oooops. another link. only 8999$
http://www.historyforsale.com/html/prodetails.asp?documentid=189491&start=18&page=1629 | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: color Jeu 16 Fév 2006 - 16:11 | |
| color photo
http://www.gazette.de/Archiv/Gazette-Aug03-Jan04/guillotine.gif | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: joseph neel Ven 17 Fév 2006 - 16:25 | |
| Affaire Néel Joseph-Auguste & Ollivier Louis.
http://www.grandcolombier.com/2003-histoire/neel/index.html | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Jacques Fesch and his story Ven 17 Fév 2006 - 22:29 | |
| In December 1993, Cardinal Lustiger, the Archbishop of Paris, opened the preliminary inquiry for the beatification of Jacques Fesch. "I hope," he said, "that one day he will be venerated as a model of sanctity.
http://praiseofglory.com/jfesch.htm | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: miscellanea Ven 17 Fév 2006 - 23:03 | |
| more photos from prague prison the weight blade is 60 kg.(!) Metal rod is for taking off heads from the basket. there were 1075 people executed(political prisoners).The last execution was in april 1945 dalsi fotografie=next photo http://zpravy.idnes.cz/praha.asp?r=praha&c=A060203_111247_praha_jba | |
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Nemo Fondateur
Nombre de messages : 1962 Age : 41 Date d'inscription : 27/01/2006
| Sujet: Re: miscellanea Sam 18 Fév 2006 - 0:16 | |
| Thanks a lot, Piotr, for this whole lot of links. I think I have to prepare now a whole page about Fallbeil, but I'm not very interested in that particular story of the guillotine cause it was used against innocent people, mainly !
But in some time from now, I know I'll have to ! _________________ "Les humains, pour la plupart, ne se doutent de rien, sans envie ni besoin de savoir, ça leur va comme ça, ils croient avoir de l'emprise sur les choses. - Mh... pourquoi en avoir fait un secret ? Ils peuvent comprendre, ils sont intelligents... - Une personne, sûrement, mais en foule, on est cons, on panique comme une horde d'animaux, et tu le sais."
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: miscellanea Sam 18 Fév 2006 - 0:33 | |
| - Sywan a écrit:
- Thanks a lot, Piotr, for this whole lot of links. I think I have to prepare now a whole page about Fallbeil, but I'm not very interested in that particular story of the guillotine cause it was used against innocent people, mainly !
But in some time from now, I know I'll have to ! All history of guillotine is a cruel story and a part of our history. In many times against innocent people (french revolution for example) Al right.I 'll give one link more for fallbeill soon but it will be a criminal case | |
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Nemo Fondateur
Nombre de messages : 1962 Age : 41 Date d'inscription : 27/01/2006
| Sujet: Re: miscellanea Sam 18 Fév 2006 - 0:41 | |
| Don't be angry, the words I said were a little too extreme, I realize that. But you know, I'm not particularly proud of French Revolution because all the innocents who died in the most unfair way. Plus, many books already spoke about Revolution, and I'm the kind of guy who likes to learn new things : famous crime stories such as Landru or Petiot bores me. Crimes which happened in France but weren't too publicized are the things I prefer to read about !
The other reason I don't do a page about Fallbeil is the lack of time : this site is absolutely free and the books I'm writing are a way to earn a little money. As I'm currently unemployed, I can't be stupid !
Personally, I don't see guillotine as a cruel thing, cause I'm for death penalty.
And I will be delighted to read about the last post, fallbeil for a real criminal ! _________________ "Les humains, pour la plupart, ne se doutent de rien, sans envie ni besoin de savoir, ça leur va comme ça, ils croient avoir de l'emprise sur les choses. - Mh... pourquoi en avoir fait un secret ? Ils peuvent comprendre, ils sont intelligents... - Une personne, sûrement, mais en foule, on est cons, on panique comme une horde d'animaux, et tu le sais."
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: miscellanea Sam 18 Fév 2006 - 1:02 | |
| And I will be delighted to read about the last post, fallbeil for a real criminal ![/quote]
OK especially 4U 23 July 1908 - 22 year old Margarete 'Grete' Beier was guillotined in Freiburg, Germany, for murdering her fiance.........
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Studio/3015/grete.htm | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2963 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: :-) Mar 21 Fév 2006 - 16:11 | |
| The picture from french guyana http://damien.mauran.free.fr/guyane/guyane-Pages/Image42.html
soon somethihg very interesting...... | |
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