| Miscellanea part 5 | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Miscellanea part 5 Lun 2 Avr 2007 - 8:58 | |
| The butcher from Hannover http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/haarman/index_1.html executed 15 April 1925 http://www.calenberger-neustadt.de/impressionen/haarmann/haarm04.jpg | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Lun 2 Avr 2007 - 14:58 | |
| death mask of Robespierre http://www.halftimescores.co.uk/images/pc05b/fs5885.jpg | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Mar 3 Avr 2007 - 17:40 | |
| The guillotine blade in London.... http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/node6500.html "...as the guillotine blade used to execute Jean-Baptiste Carrier (an extreme Jacobin who reportedly committed atrocities during the French Revolution) " | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Mer 4 Avr 2007 - 23:16 | |
| The fallbeil lost before ececution(but only for short time....)
http://www.cellesche-zeitung.de/lokales/sachsenspiegel/170417.html | |
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Boisdejustice Monsieur de Paris
Nombre de messages : 1459 Age : 67 Localisation : USA Emploi : Ingenieur Date d'inscription : 29/01/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Jeu 5 Avr 2007 - 14:43 | |
| Piotr,
The "blade" link above connects to the entry page of a vast medical museum site with a lot of stuff. Couldn't find any pictures or articles on the guillotine... Maybe a pointer on where to look would help? | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Jeu 5 Avr 2007 - 15:42 | |
| - Boisdejustice a écrit:
- Piotr,
The "blade" link above connects to the entry page of a vast medical museum site with a lot of stuff. Couldn't find any pictures or articles on the guillotine... Maybe a pointer on where to look would help? http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD023935.html Inormation is very poor-Please look at chapter"wellcome collection" | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Lun 9 Avr 2007 - 8:20 | |
| The protocol from execution in Plotzensee http://www.schule-museum.de/brandenburg/Hinrichtungsprotokoll.htm | |
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rottger Aide non qualifié
Nombre de messages : 23 Localisation : USA Emploi : Historian, Writer Date d'inscription : 19/03/2007
| Sujet: Plotzensee Execution Protocol Mer 11 Avr 2007 - 6:24 | |
| - piotr a écrit:
- The protocol from execution in Plotzensee
http://www.schule-museum.de/brandenburg/Hinrichtungsprotokoll.htm Nice find Piotr! The description of the execution deletes the name of the executioner but it probably was Ernst Reindel who was one of three state executioners in 1942 (Reichhart and Hehr were the others). Reindel resigned in 1943 and until a replacement could be named, Hehr served as the temporary Berlin executioner (and possibly Reichhart as well). By the end of 1943, Wilhelm (Willi) Rottger (yes, my forum name) was appointed scharfrichter aus Berlin and he served in that post to the end of the war. The execution described in the protocol was no "record-setter". From the time the condemned was turned over to the executioner to the time the blade fell took 12 seconds. The standard was 7 seconds and we have reports of as little as 3 seconds. The protocol also documents the religious aspects of the execution which would be deleted in 1943. | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Jeu 12 Avr 2007 - 20:13 | |
| The guillotine from Amsterdam Museum of Torture http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/p/m/1dc41e/ http://www.torturemuseum.com/content.html | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Dim 15 Avr 2007 - 12:20 | |
| The fallbeil from Vienna http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/4jg1/view-image/viennaflb.html | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Mer 25 Avr 2007 - 22:10 | |
| Execution of Busseuil http://www.bm-lyon.fr/expo/virtuelles/sang/55.htm | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: "Das fallbeil" Dim 29 Avr 2007 - 9:55 | |
| https://servimg.com/view/11227981/3 | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: 1943- München-Stadelheim prison Mar 1 Mai 2007 - 21:40 | |
| 1.Order for hangman https://servimg.com/view/11227981/5 2.Protocol from execution https://servimg.com/view/11227981/6 | |
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Whistlekiller Aide non qualifié
Nombre de messages : 11 Age : 59 Localisation : England Emploi : Account Manager, Computers Date d'inscription : 30/04/2007
| Sujet: Berlin's last guillotine Jeu 3 Mai 2007 - 9:59 | |
| I found this link which may be of interest. It's in German but the on-line translators available make a pretty good job of it http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/archiv/.bin/dump.fcgi/2002/0525/magazin/0004/index.html | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: The last guillotine from Berlin Jeu 3 Mai 2007 - 13:10 | |
| Today in Luwdwigsburg Museum https://servimg.com/view/11227981/16 | |
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Whistlekiller Aide non qualifié
Nombre de messages : 11 Age : 59 Localisation : England Emploi : Account Manager, Computers Date d'inscription : 30/04/2007
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Jeu 3 Mai 2007 - 14:27 | |
| - piotr a écrit:
- Today in Luwdwigsburg Museum
https://servimg.com/view/11227981/16 Piotr, is that the fallbeil last used in West Germany in 1949 to execute Berthold Wehmeyer at Moabit? | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Jeu 3 Mai 2007 - 15:18 | |
| - Whistlekiller a écrit:
- piotr a écrit:
- Today in Luwdwigsburg Museum
https://servimg.com/view/11227981/16 Piotr, is that the fallbeil last used in West Germany in 1949 to execute Berthold Wehmeyer at Moabit? According to the article from "Berliner Zeitung" that is the same machine (now on display in Prison Museum Ludwigsburg) | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Dim 6 Mai 2007 - 20:33 | |
| Executions in Wolfenbuttel during Third Reich reign http://www.vernetztes-gedaechtnis.de/pdfs/Hueneckevg.pdf | |
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Whistlekiller Aide non qualifié
Nombre de messages : 11 Age : 59 Localisation : England Emploi : Account Manager, Computers Date d'inscription : 30/04/2007
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Mar 8 Mai 2007 - 10:01 | |
| Another link: http://sevres-pratique.com/DOCS/wolfenbuettel.html | |
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Whistlekiller Aide non qualifié
Nombre de messages : 11 Age : 59 Localisation : England Emploi : Account Manager, Computers Date d'inscription : 30/04/2007
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Mar 8 Mai 2007 - 10:12 | |
| And another: http://www.geschichtsatlas.de/~ge3/hinrichtungsstaette.php | |
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konvoi Exécuteur cantonal
Nombre de messages : 187 Age : 73 Localisation : Montauban (82) Emploi : retraité, inscrit sur le forum le 27-01-2006 Date d'inscription : 27/01/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Mar 8 Mai 2007 - 14:36 | |
| Merci pour le rappel de ce témoignage douloureux ! | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Miscellanea part 5 Mer 9 Mai 2007 - 19:52 | |
| The guillotine blade(XVIII century?) https://servimg.com/view/11227981/21 | |
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Henri Bourreau départemental
Nombre de messages : 283 Age : 68 Localisation : Cambridge UK Emploi : vacataire/temporaire/artiste Date d'inscription : 05/10/2006
| Sujet: the guillotine blade Mer 9 Mai 2007 - 23:52 | |
| Hi Piotr the caption says: "le couperet qui servit en 1793 aux executions de Louis xvi et Marie-Antoinette."(the blade used in 1793 for the executions ofLouis XVI and Marie-Antoinette) If we take in consideration the nonsymmetrical shape of this blade, and the holes made to pass the screws, in order to fix it to the "mouton", also pierced in an nonsymmetrical manner, it looks like a blade of the period. I remember a picture published in "le Journal de la France " in 1969, which showed a similar blade, with the same explanation. Maybe Bois-de-Justice can give his opinion? | |
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Boisdejustice Monsieur de Paris
Nombre de messages : 1459 Age : 67 Localisation : USA Emploi : Ingenieur Date d'inscription : 29/01/2006
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Henri Bourreau départemental
Nombre de messages : 283 Age : 68 Localisation : Cambridge UK Emploi : vacataire/temporaire/artiste Date d'inscription : 05/10/2006
| Sujet: Lame historique Jeu 10 Mai 2007 - 17:05 | |
| Bonjour Bois de justice. Hourra! Je crois bien que c'est cette lame que presentait le "Journal de la France" | |
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