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Execution of George Kaps
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Brothers Pollet
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piotr a écrit:
Brothers Pollet
http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/dossiers/justice/affaires_region/pollet.phtml

and others.....
http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/dossiers/justice/affaires_region/home.phtml
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dédédu77 a écrit:
En effet, Piotr, j'avais fait connaître ces liens il y a quelque temps déjà. Mais rien de grave Wink

oh ,excuse me Dededu confused
But what about that?
Execution of Busseuil.......29 Jan.1894
http://www.bm-lyon.fr/expo/virtuelles/sang/55.htm

http://www.hstl.crhst.cnrs.fr/research/aci/criminocorpus/aac/ice/ice_page_detail.php?lang=fr&type=img&bdd=crhst_arch&table=criminocorpus_aac&bookId=9&typeofbookDes=revue&pageOrder=373&facsimile=off&search=no&nav=0
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La bande a Pollet
http://www.histoires-de-chtis.com/index-news-84-la-bande-a-pollet-avertissement-et-chanson.php
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Bonjour Piotr.

Interessant document: en dehors de la "Louison", l'un de mes centres d'interet est la chanson populaire. As-tu une idee de l'auteur? Je pencherais pour un chansonnier des rues, vu le style un peu naif et la simplicite des vers. Y-a-il en Pologne des documents analogues, relatifs a tel ou tel evenement tragique? Par exemple, ici, nous avons une complainte racontant les "exploits"et la mort de Mandrin, le "bandit bienaime", de maniere tres schematique et inexacte dans le detail d'ailleurs. Il en existe une egalement sur un autre bandit celebre du XVIII eme siecle: Cartouche.
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Henri a écrit:
Bonjour Piotr.

Interessant document: en dehors de la "Louison", l'un de mes centres d'interet est la chanson populaire. As-tu une idee de l'auteur? Je pencherais pour un chansonnier des rues, vu le style un peu naif et la simplicite des vers. Y-a-il en Pologne des documents analogues, relatifs a tel ou tel evenement tragique? Par exemple, ici, nous avons une complainte racontant les "exploits"et la mort de Mandrin, le "bandit bienaime", de maniere tres schematique et inexacte dans le detail d'ailleurs. Il en existe une egalement sur un autre bandit celebre du XVIII eme siecle: Cartouche.
Bonjour
Unfortunateluy I know nothing more about "pollet" song.I think such songs were very popular in the past in all european countries(especially among middle and low class of society) I know the old song(or rather melody and a few words) from Poland about slovak-polish mountains-robber Yanosik from XVIII century executed by hanging on the hook driven under the last rib(!!!!!!!!!!)
http://www.thescreamonline.com/commentary/comment5-1/johnpaul/janosik_med.jpg
But below is something from France:
http://www.chez.com/follenn/bjegado.html
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Hi Piotr.

Thank you very much indeed for this link: I am also a "fan" of celtic songs and music (Alan Stivell, Planxty etc...)
All the best
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I forgot to ask you: where can I have more details about this polish highway man? Your links only shows an awful but well rended angraving of the execution.
Anything in english or even french somewhere would be great.
Thank you.
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Henri a écrit:
I forgot to ask you: where can I have more details about this polish highway man? Your links only shows an awful but well rended angraving of the execution.
Anything in english or even french somewhere would be great.
Thank you.
Truly speaking Janosik's origin was rather slovak but the his tradition even now is alive in both sides (polish and slovak) of Tatra mountains
Here you are
http://www.krykiet.com/janosik_robin_hood.htm
http://www.kresy.co.uk/janosik.html.
http://www.homini.com.pl/en/index.php?s=details&id=132
http://www.sni.edu.pl/janosik/index-1.htm
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:Ihr-BHD5Z_oJ:okana.org/anthro/Janosikweb.pdf+janosik+highwayman&hl=pl&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=opera
http://www.iarelative.com/history/janosik.htm
http://www.zpob.org/index_files/Page2149.html
http://www.humanitiesweb.org/human.php?s=c&p=a&a=i&ID=1652
According to the legend his execution lasts for 3 days.He was alive and was smoking his favourite tabacco pipe!!!!.Yes the mountais robbers from Tatra really were very hard people

You can try search in Google with key words as Janosik(spell Yanosik) robber,Tatra mountains, songs, etc.
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Execution of the Dore
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What a terrible drawing of the guillotine! Some of those old eyewitness renderings are amazingly poor, as if the artists have no observation skills... weird considering that they are illustrators. Someone that had not seen a guillotine could hardly do worse Smile
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Boisdejustice a écrit:
What a terrible drawing of the guillotine! Some of those old eyewitness renderings are amazingly poor, as if the artists have no observation skills... weird considering that they are illustrators. Someone that had not seen a guillotine could hardly do worse Smile

Sure; The drawing is a kind of the "licentia poetica" anyway with a historic value
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Boisdejustice a écrit:
What a terrible drawing of the guillotine! Some of those old eyewitness renderings are amazingly poor, as if the artists have no observation skills... weird considering that they are illustrators. Someone that had not seen a guillotine could hardly do worse Smile

Popular and very known drawing from Petit Journal(the same execution)
is more realistic and still no ideal( but who was perfect except Mr Deibler of course ;-)
http://a1692.g.akamai.net/f/1692/2042/7d/moreas.blog.lemonde.fr/files/2007/01/le-petit-journal-1891-execution-dore-et-berland.jpg
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Execution of Louis XVI
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Charles-Henri-Sanson
http://www.univie.ac.at/igl.geschichte/ws2002-2003/ku_ws2002_homepages/Guger/Maennlichkeit.htm#Sanson
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Execution of Pierre Kuntz- Paris 3 rd Dec.1893

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Execution in Hauptmont
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