| Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Sam 27 Jan 2007 - 8:34 | |
| Execution of George Kaps http://english.journaux-collection.com/cgi/phototag.cgi?11494-1.jpg | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Lun 29 Jan 2007 - 22:01 | |
| Brothers Pollet http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/dossiers/justice/affaires_region/pollet.phtml | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Lun 29 Jan 2007 - 22:13 | |
| - piotr a écrit:
- Brothers Pollet
http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/dossiers/justice/affaires_region/pollet.phtml and others..... http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/dossiers/justice/affaires_region/home.phtml | |
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Invité Invité
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Lun 29 Jan 2007 - 22:55 | |
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Dernière édition par le Mar 20 Nov 2007 - 15:58, édité 1 fois |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Mar 30 Jan 2007 - 16:42 | |
| - dédédu77 a écrit:
- En effet, Piotr, j'avais fait connaître ces liens il y a quelque temps déjà. Mais rien de grave
oh ,excuse me Dededu But what about that? Execution of Busseuil.......29 Jan.1894 http://www.bm-lyon.fr/expo/virtuelles/sang/55.htm http://www.hstl.crhst.cnrs.fr/research/aci/criminocorpus/aac/ice/ice_page_detail.php?lang=fr&type=img&bdd=crhst_arch&table=criminocorpus_aac&bookId=9&typeofbookDes=revue&pageOrder=373&facsimile=off&search=no&nav=0 | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Jeu 1 Fév 2007 - 21:46 | |
| La bande a Pollet http://www.histoires-de-chtis.com/index-news-84-la-bande-a-pollet-avertissement-et-chanson.php | |
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Henri Bourreau départemental
Nombre de messages : 283 Age : 68 Localisation : Cambridge UK Emploi : vacataire/temporaire/artiste Date d'inscription : 05/10/2006
| Sujet: La bande a Pollet Jeu 1 Fév 2007 - 23:20 | |
| Bonjour Piotr.
Interessant document: en dehors de la "Louison", l'un de mes centres d'interet est la chanson populaire. As-tu une idee de l'auteur? Je pencherais pour un chansonnier des rues, vu le style un peu naif et la simplicite des vers. Y-a-il en Pologne des documents analogues, relatifs a tel ou tel evenement tragique? Par exemple, ici, nous avons une complainte racontant les "exploits"et la mort de Mandrin, le "bandit bienaime", de maniere tres schematique et inexacte dans le detail d'ailleurs. Il en existe une egalement sur un autre bandit celebre du XVIII eme siecle: Cartouche. | |
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Invité Invité
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Dim 4 Fév 2007 - 1:14 | |
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Dernière édition par le Mar 20 Nov 2007 - 19:06, édité 1 fois |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Dim 4 Fév 2007 - 8:28 | |
| - Henri a écrit:
- Bonjour Piotr.
Interessant document: en dehors de la "Louison", l'un de mes centres d'interet est la chanson populaire. As-tu une idee de l'auteur? Je pencherais pour un chansonnier des rues, vu le style un peu naif et la simplicite des vers. Y-a-il en Pologne des documents analogues, relatifs a tel ou tel evenement tragique? Par exemple, ici, nous avons une complainte racontant les "exploits"et la mort de Mandrin, le "bandit bienaime", de maniere tres schematique et inexacte dans le detail d'ailleurs. Il en existe une egalement sur un autre bandit celebre du XVIII eme siecle: Cartouche. Bonjour Unfortunateluy I know nothing more about "pollet" song.I think such songs were very popular in the past in all european countries(especially among middle and low class of society) I know the old song(or rather melody and a few words) from Poland about slovak-polish mountains-robber Yanosik from XVIII century executed by hanging on the hook driven under the last rib(!!!!!!!!!!) http://www.thescreamonline.com/commentary/comment5-1/johnpaul/janosik_med.jpg But below is something from France: http://www.chez.com/follenn/bjegado.html | |
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Henri Bourreau départemental
Nombre de messages : 283 Age : 68 Localisation : Cambridge UK Emploi : vacataire/temporaire/artiste Date d'inscription : 05/10/2006
| Sujet: Pollet song Dim 4 Fév 2007 - 12:30 | |
| Hi Piotr.
Thank you very much indeed for this link: I am also a "fan" of celtic songs and music (Alan Stivell, Planxty etc...) All the best | |
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Henri Bourreau départemental
Nombre de messages : 283 Age : 68 Localisation : Cambridge UK Emploi : vacataire/temporaire/artiste Date d'inscription : 05/10/2006
| Sujet: Pollet song Dim 4 Fév 2007 - 12:36 | |
| I forgot to ask you: where can I have more details about this polish highway man? Your links only shows an awful but well rended angraving of the execution. Anything in english or even french somewhere would be great. Thank you. | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Dim 4 Fév 2007 - 13:43 | |
| - Henri a écrit:
- I forgot to ask you: where can I have more details about this polish highway man? Your links only shows an awful but well rended angraving of the execution.
Anything in english or even french somewhere would be great. Thank you. Truly speaking Janosik's origin was rather slovak but the his tradition even now is alive in both sides (polish and slovak) of Tatra mountains Here you are http://www.krykiet.com/janosik_robin_hood.htm http://www.kresy.co.uk/janosik.html. http://www.homini.com.pl/en/index.php?s=details&id=132 http://www.sni.edu.pl/janosik/index-1.htm http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:Ihr-BHD5Z_oJ:okana.org/anthro/Janosikweb.pdf+janosik+highwayman&hl=pl&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=opera http://www.iarelative.com/history/janosik.htm http://www.zpob.org/index_files/Page2149.html http://www.humanitiesweb.org/human.php?s=c&p=a&a=i&ID=1652 According to the legend his execution lasts for 3 days.He was alive and was smoking his favourite tabacco pipe!!!!.Yes the mountais robbers from Tatra really were very hard people You can try search in Google with key words as Janosik(spell Yanosik) robber,Tatra mountains, songs, etc. | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Jeu 15 Fév 2007 - 22:18 | |
| Execution of the Dore http://english.journaux-collection.com/cgi/phototag.cgi?250712-1.jpg | |
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Boisdejustice Monsieur de Paris
Nombre de messages : 1459 Age : 67 Localisation : USA Emploi : Ingenieur Date d'inscription : 29/01/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Ven 16 Fév 2007 - 3:24 | |
| What a terrible drawing of the guillotine! Some of those old eyewitness renderings are amazingly poor, as if the artists have no observation skills... weird considering that they are illustrators. Someone that had not seen a guillotine could hardly do worse | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Ven 16 Fév 2007 - 6:36 | |
| - Boisdejustice a écrit:
- What a terrible drawing of the guillotine! Some of those old eyewitness renderings are amazingly poor, as if the artists have no observation skills... weird considering that they are illustrators. Someone that had not seen a guillotine could hardly do worse
Sure; The drawing is a kind of the "licentia poetica" anyway with a historic value | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Ven 16 Fév 2007 - 7:24 | |
| - Boisdejustice a écrit:
- What a terrible drawing of the guillotine! Some of those old eyewitness renderings are amazingly poor, as if the artists have no observation skills... weird considering that they are illustrators. Someone that had not seen a guillotine could hardly do worse
Popular and very known drawing from Petit Journal(the same execution) is more realistic and still no ideal( but who was perfect except Mr Deibler of course ;-) http://a1692.g.akamai.net/f/1692/2042/7d/moreas.blog.lemonde.fr/files/2007/01/le-petit-journal-1891-execution-dore-et-berland.jpg | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Ven 2 Mar 2007 - 22:50 | |
| Execution of Louis XVI http://www.tocqueville.culture.fr/en/portraits/popup/html/z_enfance2.html | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Dim 11 Mar 2007 - 14:58 | |
| Charles-Henri-Sanson http://www.univie.ac.at/igl.geschichte/ws2002-2003/ku_ws2002_homepages/Guger/Maennlichkeit.htm#Sanson | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Sam 17 Mar 2007 - 9:58 | |
| Execution of Pierre Kuntz- Paris 3 rd Dec.1893
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kunaexehj3.jpg | |
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piotr Charles-Henri Sanson
Nombre de messages : 2989 Localisation : Poland Emploi : MD-but I'm not working in prison ;-) Date d'inscription : 07/02/2006
| Sujet: Re: Is anybody here? Miscellanea part 4 ... Sam 24 Mar 2007 - 13:38 | |
| Execution in Hauptmont http://www.iht.com/articles/1993/08/04/edold_7.php | |
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