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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMar 21 Fév 2006 - 22:30

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
old, tired and retired (but not dry)"la vueve"

http://www.imageplus.name/index.php?action=article&id_article=96682

http://www.imageplus.name/index.php?action=galerie&subaction=album&id_album=1511&PHPSESSID=7033b04f24ca4cc6c01536b41daefecc
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMer 22 Fév 2006 - 2:33

Excellent pictures of the Berger from the Bagne... Put together a little helter skelter apparently by the photographer but it actually looks in very good condition. He appears to be missing the steel support braces and cross bar and he put the rear leg of the bascule in backwards. Great find!
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMer 22 Fév 2006 - 11:19

Thank you Piotr for the story of Krautmann's execution.

What awful one: seeing the blade, just before the fall ! affraid

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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMer 22 Fév 2006 - 17:31

Boisdejustice a écrit:
Excellent pictures of the Berger from the Bagne... Put together a little helter skelter apparently by the photographer but it actually looks in very good condition. He appears to be missing the steel support braces and cross bar and he put the rear leg of the bascule in backwards. Great find!

the same widow but 80(?) years ago

www.timbresmag.com/pdfs/36cposta.pdf
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMer 22 Fév 2006 - 22:55

As far as I know there were only two widows in French Guyana: An old 1793 model used on Ile Royale and the new Berger model used in St Laurent. Thus the pictures are THE Berger guillotine from St Laurent, which claimed over 300 heads from the 1890's through 1946. Any idea where it is now? The pictures look like it was taken out of storage especially for these photos. The basket is even photographed inside its storage crate. This may explain why the braces are not installed... they are probably in the bottom of one of the boxes.

I hope this piece of history is in a museum not rotting away in a shed somewhere!
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMer 22 Fév 2006 - 23:27

I hope too.But is litlle destroyed:-(
More links about widow and "bagnes"
http://gmarchal.free.fr/Le%20Bagne%20de%20Guyane/Hespel.htm

http://www.imageplus.name/index.php?action=article&id_article=91512&voir_commentaire=oui
http://www.hotstory.free.fr/la_guillotine.htm
in third link-scene after execution
(sorry for unwanted additional atraction on the page)
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MessageSujet: Re: Orsini   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyJeu 23 Fév 2006 - 19:38

dédédu77 a écrit:
Although the drawing is not very realistic ( every country has his own image about the guillotine and executions), thank you for your link and interventions about bagne guillotine. Some photographs were unknow to me.

Very good evening end.

Cordially
:-) it's only drawig(probably from XiX century) but of historical document too.
BTW -be so kind and put "my" orsini to the photos historices under your link if you can. It will be more comfortable for forum users.
THX
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyDim 26 Fév 2006 - 8:15

Compiegne 17 july 1794....
http://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/j136sdCarmeliteCompeigne_6-17.htm

When they went up on the deck of the guillotine, one by one they knelt before the Mother-Superior, asked her blessing, and began singing the hymn to the Holy Spirit... "Come Holy Spirit..." .. The singing gradually decreased as the nuns were killed one by one. The last to die was the prioress, Sister Teresa of Saint Augustine. Her final words when addressing the crowd of people who were present have become famous:

"Love is always victorious.
Love can do everything!"
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Jack's London story.
The old one but the good one.....
http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/GodLaughs/chinago.html
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMar 28 Fév 2006 - 15:51

Paris Comune 1871
Burning of a guillotine

http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/fll/janzalon/revolution/guillotine.jpg
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arezky al bachir-azazga

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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyVen 10 Mar 2006 - 15:06

Hi Piotr,
I see you use a new logo by your name. I recognize it from The Guillotine Headquarters and it is one of Jorn Fabricius' copyrighted designs.
I have inadvertantly used one of his photographs on my website and he was not happy about it and contacted me, asking me to remove it. If you want to avoid trouble, I would ask him for permission or remove it before he sees it.
You are welcome to use any picture from my website as replacement.
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyVen 10 Mar 2006 - 15:29

Boisdejustice a écrit:
Hi Piotr,
I see you use a new logo by your name. I recognize it from The Guillotine Headquarters and it is one of Jorn Fabricius' copyrighted designs.
I have inadvertantly used one of his photographs on my website and he was not happy about it and contacted me, asking me to remove it. If you want to avoid trouble, I would ask him for permission or remove it before he sees it.
You are welcome to use any picture from my website as replacement.

Well. Then I,ll change it for better one Very Happy
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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyLun 13 Mar 2006 - 19:41

Henri Pranzini and.... tobacco pipe

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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyLun 13 Mar 2006 - 19:52

Now is OK (pranzini image)

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img52/7945/pranzini17sy.jpg

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MessageSujet: Re: miscellanea   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMer 15 Mar 2006 - 20:05

British Medical Journal 1887 -medical autopsy after guillotining
(no for sensitive persons!)

http://tafkac.org/medical/decapitated_head_blinking_more.html
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House of the widow-paris
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Triple execution in Valence.
Photo is popular and known but quality is better

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Paris 25 June 1804.
Execution of Cadoudal
http://les.guillotines.free.fr/cadoudal2.jpg
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British Medical Journal 1887 -medical autopsy after guillotining
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http://tafkac.org/medical/decapitated_head_blinking_more.html


Are there pictures ?
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British Medical Journal 1887 -medical autopsy after guillotining
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http://tafkac.org/medical/decapitated_head_blinking_more.html


Are there pictures ?
I don't think so :-(
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Hidden :-( guillotine in "National Museum of History and Art"
Luxembourg
http://www.mnha.public.lu/functions/search/resultHighlight/index.php?linkId=1&SID=f0e81256bc2376b44c153c7cff235923
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Boris, Goubin, Pommier and Raoulx........

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Helene Jegado .Executed in 1851

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MessageSujet: Re: Exécution d' Hélène JEGADO   miscellanea - Page 2 EmptyMar 4 Avr 2006 - 22:24

dédédu77 a écrit:
Hi Piotr,

It was in 1852, on February 26. She was executed in Rennes, one year before the nomination of Joseph DEIBLER (grandfather of Anatole) as chief executioner in this town.

you are expert.but net sources ale talking about 1851.I doesn't matter

Very Happy
http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/serialkillers/jegado.htm

http://www.chez.com/follenn/bjegado.html
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